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  • shukla77
    06-11 10:07 AM
    Agree 100%.

    very good points.
    this is what we do till infinity ...discuss discuss discuss.
    open more threads, discuss discuss discuss.
    end.
    we discuss more than the congress.

    let us come with small numerous campaigns to highlight the contributions of legal immigrants..atleast that will prevent people from getting bored





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  • BharatPremi
    12-14 04:01 PM
    To summarize the discussions on this thread:

    Yes, it is 7 % for all countries.

    Now it is manifestly obvious that the 7 % figure is arbitrary, and not fair. That much we can all agree on.

    The real question, as raised in the first post of the thread by soljabhai is:

    (A) Is that constitutional?
    (B) (And this is the real question): If it is, what should we do about it?

    Intelligent questions, both.
    The answer to (A) is not clear. We need a competent constitutional expert to opine on the matter.
    For (B), (which is what the thread is really all about), there are lively discussions with differing views.
    lazycis has presented good evidence that the case is not cut and dried legally. It might be unfair, but those are the laws.
    mbartosik, alterego, me and others have argued (from different angles) in terms of pragmatism. (Cost is not worth the benefit)
    garybanz, soljabhai, and others have argued that it is worth it (Cost is worth the benefit).

    Anyway, agree or disagree, its an interesting thread with interesting posts..

    Addition to this:
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    - "7% limit" is not discriminative to "Any country" AND "Restrictive" especially
    to the countries from where maximum flow of labor comes.
    - When industry demands high number of labor and in the situation of getting majority of this labor from particular
    countries only ,since the available labor force in other countries does not match the demand for one or other reason,
    then this restriction becomes SENSELESS and useless in all its practical terms and limits.
    - "Country of origin based limit" "smells" (In Mark's language..:))
    discriminative when employment always have to be related with "skill" AND
    THAT IS A ETHICAL OR MORAL PROBLEM





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  • sumagiri
    07-23 12:27 PM
    Guys,

    I think we have talked and analyzed enough about how many visas available for August and September and pretty much arrived at conclusion that at the minimum 20K visas available. (Thanks to vdlrao).


    Now we should talk about capability of USCIS and its processing speed? What is the normal approval rate with USCIS's regular processing. Also we heard that USCIS recruited many people, Do we suppose to see any improvement in processing. Do we think all the 20K visas will be used within 2 months?


    If USCIS is going to approve only 5K visas over next 2 months, there is no point in talking how many visas left.

    Thanks

    GCWhru,

    I went back and verified if there were calculations on how we got that 20K. I couldn't find one. Please point me to the source, if there is one.

    As of now, All the mathematical and statistical estimations were on total EB2 usage and spill over for this year. Not on how many visas are left over or used up. Not all the spill over is left for these two months. Some or most of that spill over is already used up.

    I think 20k was some guess based on number of labor filings from April 2004 to June 2006. The EB2 date move is based on USICS/DOS estimation on how many are documentarily qualified. It is important to remember that not every one with priority date before June 2006 are documentarily qualified. Some are still waiting for I-140 approval and some of them had RFEs.

    Thanks





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    09-04 12:59 PM
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  • cal_dood
    07-24 07:55 PM
    No offense buddy. I am sure these are all valid points. We've all had similar experiences.

    But I always find it ironical...you read blogs on cnn-ibn by Indians, who say 'I'll leave this country if Sonia Gandhi becomes PM/ if Mayawati becomes PM/fill in the blanks". Then you read posts here about people ready to go back to India, or go to Canada. The funniest ones are who say "I love my India" and then start a thread about how to emigrate to Canada/UK/Australia/NZ. So basically it is "anywhere but India" ?

    It's always a tough decision to emigrate to another country. I wonder if people also take into consideration the politics in US, the war, the biased media in this country when making this decision - or is it just about $$$$ ?

    Its not the question of economy alone. When deciding to go back. Its a question about convenience.

    a) I don't want to stand in line to pay my Electric/Telephone/House Tax/Income Tax/Train Ticket/Air Ticket/Bus Ticket/Children Admission-donations/Petrol Line/LP Gas Line/Restaurant Line/Chola Bhatura Line/Samosa Line/RTO Office line/Registration line/License Line/Stock Buy line/Stock Sell Line/Bank Deposit Line/Bank Draft Line/Fixed Deposit Line/Kisaan Vikas Patra Line/Registered/Speed post Line/Blue Dart Line/Company registration line/College admission line/College fee line/University degree line/Interview Line/Booking a Car line/Beer Whisky Line/Canteen Line.

    Half the country stands in line, the other half manages the line. Neither has any civic sense.

    b) I don't want to bribe babus who manage above lines to get ahead in line.

    d) I don't want power failures/cooler failures/ac failures/broken roads/or other catastrophic system failures.

    e) I dont want fake or mixed eating oil / flour / milk / cheese / butter / peppers / lentils / rice

    f) I don't want dangerous chemical fertilizers in my produce (slow killers - massive kidney failure rate in India for past 10 years)

    g) I don't want to teach my children dishonesty and tricks of survival/street smartness (in ref to corruption in India) which don't add any value to their personality.

    h) The only reason I would wanna go back is for my immediate family and friends. Thats the only thing I miss when it comes to India.

    I wouldn't go back and I believe even MK Gandhi himself would'nt leave from Africa for India in todays times.

    Also Its the enemy within (corruption) which can cause great harm and we have that kind of enemy now. You can never ever change the attitudes which people carry in India without another revolution.

    I am sure I can come up with a huge list of positives too, They will sound very good and will give me a great feeling of fake National Pride.

    Now go ahead and kill me for saying all the above.!!





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  • rsharma
    09-23 10:10 AM
    Asking for exemption from quota will cause this proposal to fail. My suggestion:

    Of the 10,000 available visas per year for EB5, only about 3k to 4k are being used. How about if one buy a house and give a minimum $100,000 cash payment (not credit in US), he will get a temporary greencard from the EB5 visa pool. If after 2 years, the house is occupied and owned by the same person without problems with credit, he will get a permanent GC. This is on top of meeting the requirements of the category he is in.

    Sorry for bringing EB5 in my comments.

    This is just my opinion.


    I totally suppor this idea. This shows that we can use our innovation to bail out US economy and we try our level best to help the country we have selected to make our home. As the saying goes - A friend in need is a friend in deed. So a citizen(LPR or to-be-LPR who helps) in need is a citizen in deed.

    Earlier most of the time we used to cry about our problems - like wife not able to work or we are stuck in the same job and not able to get promotion.
    I do not think anyone cares if our wife does not work or we do not get promotions.

    People would care if we are able to show that giving us GC would help them in any way.

    So this is one of the best way to show that we would be able to help our part to bring up the economy.

    Thus I myself endorse this idea. Thanks Nixstor for putting forward this innovative idea to show that we all love USA and want this country to be economically strong.



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  • sc3
    06-27 07:37 PM
    Christ is god's son! He does not need a Green Card or any other color card :D So what is the point of making it 0?:p

    Please do not spread rumors, can you please point me to the rule that says so? I did not see any Immigration law saying that God's Son doesn't need a Green Card. Christ wasn't born in USA, and neither were his parents US citizens, so his chance of US naturalization comes from a path through Green Card or Asylum. I dont think Christ had a 4 year degree (recognized by USCIS), so he does not qualify for GC based on EB1/2/3 categories. He could claim asylum though religious persecution, but then I am not sure if Christianity was recognized by USCIS during Christ's time :D





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  • carpediem
    05-29 12:01 AM
    That's really tough! I don't think I can keep the same job profile for 10 years. Neither can I form a start-up and have it sponsor my GC application.

    The only hope might be to become a multinational executive really fast, or win the lottery and invest a million dollars in the US. :)

    Guys I think it's time to go home, Swades style!



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  • sobyb
    05-01 02:53 PM
    When did Srilankan Tamilians become Indian citizens??? also India should make sure that terrorists organisation like LTTE is wiped out from the face of earth weather its in Srilanka, Afganistan or Pakistan... gone are the days when these thugs where called 'freedom fighters' .. they are a terrorist organisation and should be treated in that manner.





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  • apt29
    01-13 04:59 PM
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  • amsgc
    07-04 11:22 AM
    Need more titles!

    Most persons don't know what USCIS is. I did not know about USCIS/DOS/DOL... until after 1 year in retrogression!


    "The US govt. does a number on High Skilled Immigrants"

    http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=5994&page=9





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  • snathan
    03-29 10:28 PM
    (Though I would also like to see this forum used only for immigration matters..)
    Thought of adding in few more points..

    So what kind of visionary are you looking for.If we make the current govt's performance as a basis then is it someone like this:

    One who questions existence of Rama , makes a success of Sethu samudram project pulling down Ram Sethu thus hitting the sentiments of the Hindus in the Hindu dominated land.
    One who arrests Sankaracharya (both semior/junior acharyas)based on suspected conspiracy angle on Deepavali eve and holds him in Jail for 60 days , bringing interruption to the Chandramauleswar puja that has been consistently conducted in the Mutt for 2,500 years (it's another thing nothing was proved for almost 5 years now)
    One who abuses Sadhvi Pragnya Thakur with evil intent to bring up something called Hindu terrorism,conduct 4 (not 1/2) narco tests apart from other unmentionable things.
    One who overlooks the murder of Swami Laxmanananda Saraswati.
    one who set's up conversion camps in Tirumala.
    All of them state sponsored.

    (On a side note:If Hindus' protest against these acts call them communal, it they don't call them spineless.
    It's like Hindus in Hindu dominated land are damned if they do ,damned if they don't)
    Well of course none of the Hindu's did anything when all these things were going on.It's another thing that they don't get any credit for their communal harmony kind of nature. Some how the de facto image has to be demonic Hindus who are in majority in India discriminate and hate minorities.)

    Mumbai terror attacks, Controversial nuke deal, bomb blasts in 5/6 other cities.

    All other candidates in the above poll will surely give some what better performance than this if made PM.

    For those who don't know and who are backing Manmohan Singh he never contested any elecetion so far and he is also not fighting these elections.He is taking Rjay Sabha route again. Don't know at what gun point Sonia Gandhi is holding him but this guy actually wants to retire after having had so many major surgeries all his , one more recently.
    Buzz is also that if UPA wins Manmhona singh will be made PM and after some time will be replaced with Rahul Gandhi.So it's all hog wash.


    I am looking for a visionary who can bring Indians out of poverty, who can give good education, security, health care and good infrastructure. Who can save us from the unstable countries and aggressive China. I am not bothering whether Sankaracharya is in jail or not. How its going to affect a common man who is begging even for basic amenities.



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  • caliducas
    07-13 09:40 AM
    Alright! Back to the US immigration deal! There is still hope and the battle is not over. So I wish you all the best with your cases. Mine has not been rejected/returned yet since my application was delivered on July 3rd. I don't know what will happen, but there is still hope!!!

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  • xyz
    06-27 07:47 AM
    This is what my very very high profile attorney wrote in her email to me today....

    " We have heard that there will be a visa regression the first week of July "

    And in immigration matters I trust her more than anybody in this whole country. So guys be ready and prepared. Do what u have to do. Be proactive.

    My post is not to spread rumors or scare people but to help them to grab this golden opportunity.

    I am ready to send papers for July 1st.

    Visa regression (visa dates' retrogression) does not mean that there are no visa numbers for any priority date. If USCIS runs out of visa numbers (i.e. the world-wide quota for the fiscal year) for anybody in EB categories, USCIS will stop accepting further applications. But, if I understand correctly, if mere visa dates retrogress and still there are visa numbers available for some older priority dates, USCIS will keep accepting applications in entire July month.





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  • belmontboy
    05-29 06:37 PM
    I have been saying this for the past one year, let us forget everything else, let us not come up with new rules or ideas or suggestions (new quotas, fraud detection, sue USCIS fund, exteneded APs etc). Focus all our energies on the one issue that will help everyone from all affected countries....Recapture of Unused Visas.

    Recapture campaign will not divide us in EB 1 Vs 2 Vs 3 or countries. Over the past year a number of people have quit because of the bickering.
    Recapture has a precedent because it was approved by Clinton earlier.
    Recapture is free of country caps and it does not affect the existing visas. Murthy's article mentions that 120k are stuck in limbo and we know that there are around 400k visas available...i dont know what more motivation people need to fight for this issues.

    On our own each one of us can do the following:
    a) Try to arrange a meeting with your congressman and senators
    b) write a letter to all members of the Judicary committee

    after that do whatever IV tells you to do

    If its recapture, then so be it.
    BTW, 120k is just indians. What about chinese, mexicans??

    instead of try on our own, why don't we group ourselves - as someone suggested 100-150 should be good enough.
    Lets group and mail president, chief of staff, your local senator, and few others (who favor legal immigration).

    can some good english pundits draw a sample letter highlighting our cause and need for visa recapture?

    Also lets have a poll and get list of participants.

    The plan shall be mail one letter to each every week. All it would cost you is a printout, an envelope, a 42cents stamp and 5 minutes. Its not too much asking though

    Any body has better suggestions?



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  • chintanop
    07-03 11:25 PM
    Totally agree!
    Digg is about how fast the story becomes popular.. even though we had large number of diggs with previous stories, it wasnt fast enough.

    Lets all digg this...NOW! FAST!

    http://digg.com/politics/USCIS_Visa_scandal (http://digg.com/politics/USCIS_Visa_scandal)


    Guys, we are all computer friendly unlike our previous generation,lets use the internet to the fullest.

    Please dig the link so ppl understand the scenario and making the news sensational but true helps!! Please add your comments to the blog ,hopefully, comments not 2 frustrated or impolite. Remember we claim to be legal immigrants,lets show some refinement and class :)





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  • lacrossegc
    09-25 11:48 PM
    IMHO ... The reason why the bailout is needed is because credit is tight, no one has the money to lend any money to ANYONE no matter what your Credit Score is. They want money NOW and cannot wait till people will comeup and buy a home. This idea of attaching immigration related stuff will fly only if you are willing to pay a full house price and no mortgage is needed. In essence ... expanded EB5 program in the lines of the following points
    1) Temporarily Increase EB5 nos to around 40,000 to 50,000.
    2) Expand eligibility to persons and their dependents who buy homes worth 150% to 200% of national avg housing price at full payment.
    3) Program sunsets in 1 month of enactment





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  • apb
    12-14 02:13 PM
    OK, let's assume the SC invalidates country-based quotas. All EB-based immigration has to stop at that point until new law is written and passed......

    Isn't this we want. New Law. I am pretty sure when new law is being written and debated and passed, we could lobby for the changes we want. I believe, the EB process will not stop during this process because the govt machinery cannot say let the new law comes into force and then we process. They have to process the GC as per the existing law.
    First we go the judiciary route. If we win that would be awesome. If we loose that will give us more visibility. More visibility could attract more sympathetic support than what we have right now. Also there will be clear distinction in senators mind between Illegal and Legal immigration. The hearings will expose the lies behind Lou D talk shows.
    I believe that this process will act as a catalyst, to the entire process. We are already facing retrogression. Maybe another couple of years of extra wait would be worthwhile if this can bring in the reforms.:)





    alisa
    02-14 10:06 PM
    Very sad to hear about this.

    I don't know what else to say. I am sorry to hear that this happened.

    I'm sorry, I haven't monitored the web-site since my last posting.

    Today reality hit me very hard. I am in my late thirties and I haven't had much adversity in my life regarding financial, career, family, etc.

    However; today reality really hit me hard.

    One gentlemen, his name was Raja Pitchai. He had asked me to help him file his I-140 and ask for cross chargeability to his wife's place of birth (singapore). USCIS accepted his package and his 140 got approved in a couple of months. (his priority date; india became available one month later anyways (he was from india eb2).

    He was the one of the nicest guys I have talked to. Very courteous fellow.

    They couldn't approve his case because he was stuck in name check. Well, his wife called me today and told me that he passed away last week (brain tumor). He had two U.S. citizen children but him and his wife have no relatives here.

    She doesn't seem to be interested to stay here (she wouldn't be able to keep the greencard process going anyways because the death of the petitioner is automatic denial). She is leaving USA and was going through all the things she needs to wind up. I don't know if she would have stayed here if she got the greencard and I didn't want to task. Reality really him home today.

    I need a couple of days to get over this.





    ash27
    03-31 11:16 PM
    Sk2006, I don't understand why would you like this thread to be deleted. I understand that this is immigration forum but I do not see any issues discussing other topics that other people are interested.... Please do not discourage people from discussing other issues that may be relevant. If you are not interested, you are more than welcome to not go through this thread....